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Rename tool "Citations" to "References" #19770
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Test failures unrelated. |
Do we have references for workflows? |
Not per se, as far as I know. |
I guess the obvious caveat is that tools are not academic texts. As such I find citations more appropriate, because it also implies that you're supposed to cite the citations. I wouldn't 👎 but I don't like the change. |
I read the article and I appreciate the clarification as a personal thing. I feel like I've learned some things and I will try to be more precise with my language going forward.
I don't find the caveat obvious - I appreciate you explaining my intuition better than I could. I think what would convince me this should be changed is if I was convinced there was some cognitive load introduced by this being "wrong" - like what the citation was in the context was confusing a group of researchers using Galaxy. I can imagine there is some cognitive load that is introduced on developers when the tool XML does not align with the language in the UI and that could be okay and worth the cost if it was helping user. If we are introducing that cost and it is just for "correctness" though... that is just never going to align with my values. I have been having conversations with @bgruening this week and I have had conversations with @martenson in the past about changing terms like "object store" and "file source" in the UI because those are too technical - I really appreciate that they made the case that these things were confusing and in fact @bgruening even brought data to the discussion. So I am a -0 as it stands - I have my opinion but I understand it is completely biased by being a native English speaker and not a traditional academic and dyslexic and having an easier time seeing the implications for developers than users. I don't claim to represent users in this discussion. |
Sorry, that was in relation to the article, which says |
Thanks both for the comments!
It's true that tools are not academic publications, but "References" is used consistently in journal articles: https://www.nature.com/articles/s44185-024-00054-6#Bib1 and in many scientific databases, e.g.: https://www.genenames.org/data/gene-symbol-report/#!/hgnc_id/HGNC:11998 There are other databases that use "Publications", "Bibliography" or "Literature" for this, but I haven't found one that uses "Citations". On the other hand, "Citation" is clearly defined in Wikipedia as "an abbreviated alphanumeric expression embedded in the body of an intellectual work that denotes an entry in the bibliographic references section of the work for the purpose of acknowledging the relevance of the works of others to the topic of discussion at the spot where the citation appears." Also "citation" is a well known term to researchers because of how a journal impact factor is calculated: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_factor#Calculation , something every scientist is aware of. We can make it clear that we encourage the user to cite the references with a section subtitle "Please cite the following:", but take into account that often they are also actual references for the (help) text we use in the tool, which is usually copy/pasted from the underlying tool, so the Galaxy author need to mention them. |
I like the "external link" change. This fits better IMHO.
Isn't that problematic for the "extract all citations for my history feature"? We want only things in there that people need to cite when they write a paper isn't it? So the wording should discourage putting in readthedocs pages in the reference/citations section. |
and former "References" (xrefs) to "External links" Fix galaxyproject#19740
and former "References" (xrefs) to "External links".
Fix #19740 .
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