Create permission is misleading

[arknu]

Which Umbraco version are you using?

15.4.1

Bug summary

The create permission for a User Group is misleading

From the description, you'd think the only affects whether the user can create new nodes.

But no, If the user group does not have Create permission, all content is opened is read-only mode and cannot be saved. Even though the user has the Update permission, which is what should actually decide whether existing content can be saved or not.

Specifics

No response

Steps to reproduce

Create some content.
Create a new user group with the following permissions:

• Browse
• Publish
• Update

Create a user with this group and log in.
Try to update some of the existing content

Expected result / actual result

These permissions should be enough to update and publish existing content, but not create new content.

However, this configuration actually causes all content to open in read-only mode.

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This item has been added to our backlog AB#53008

[github-actions]

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[AndyButland]

Reproducible also on 16, having verified that the property level permissions are set correctly.